Cowboy Action, Bullseye and Combat Shooters should love this one! Its no wonder so many people love this powder for their economical loads, its cheap AND accurate. Velocities taken at ~4-5 feet from barrel. and seated them to 1.150" as best as I recall. So filling up half way looks normal. Depending upon the cartridge overall length. He took his first turkey and mule deer at age 6 and his first bull elk at age 9. JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser settings before proceeding. But we're just a free cock punch away from finding out how badass you really are. Runs 100% reliable in everything, including 9mm AR and Beretta CX4 Storm. Used for my 9mm loads mostly. I'm thinken a 124 cast over 4.0 of titegroup has anyone tried that. And how are you metering 3.3gr? Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. It is very aggravating not be able to find a load data for the particular bullet you'd like to use. The largest difference was just over 1fps over a 10 shot average. 3 grains? Obligatory start low and work your way up Early on, its pointy full-metal-jacket rounds gave the 9x19mm a reputation as a horrible antipersonnel round. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. RN for about 10 years with excellent results in my Glocks and STI pistols. Each week the Schearer family will hunt with a variety of weapons from archery, muzzleloader and shotgun to centerfire rifles and will not only focus on the hunt, but will be filled with educational tips to make the viewers better sportsmen and sportswomen. I'm a self confessed TG whore but 4.5 is a little warm for my liking I stay at the 4.3 range for a 115g FMJ. Unique - 5.7 gn - 1250 fps. is 1.150" with Hornandy bullets. (3.2-3.6g from the Hodgdon website). A forum community dedicated to all 1911 firearm owners and enthusiasts. I shoot X-treme plated at 4.1 grains. Need to be careful with plated bullets because not all are created equal. Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, training, shows, accessories, classifieds, and more! That will allow you to get a finer-tuned powder drop. 125 gn bullets: Titegroup - 3.8 gn - 1100 fps. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. A longtime resident of Virginia, Todd competes in over 16 different shooting disciplines (to include USPSA, 3-Gun, Steel Challenge, IDPA, Olympic Rapid Fire, Shotgun Shooting Sports). 10-12 ft according to my chronos instructions inorder to prevent getting false readings due to the muzzle blast. Better to be too careful than blow something up. He still serves the NKCPD as a Range Officer volunteer today. He was trained as an armorer in the US Army, where he spent six years as a Military Police Investigator. Started at 3.8 but it would not cycle my guns correctly so had to up it. During his time, Phillip completed 4 overseas deployments and served in all billets available to a Scout Sniper, to include Scout Sniper Team Leader, Chief Scout Sniper, and Scout Sniper Instructor. Growing up, Brian spent very little time indoors, with his passions being split between baseball and spending time in either the river, the desert, or the mountains. I have seen anything from 3.7-4.4 grains recommended. I've been shooting 4.0 grains of Titegroup with Berry's 124gr. LOL. As the name implies, this spherical propellant was designed for accuracy. Makes an impression on you. In cases like this 9mm I would use the start data for the next heavier slug if that was there. WARNING: If you are a newer reloader, you do not want to start out using this powder. Seen a few of those over the years. Wyatt has won numerous elk calling competitions at the ISE Best of the West Elk Calling Competition. Starting load is 4.5gr for 1135fps. More details in the thread in Tech Support for those who are interested. After graduating college, Ryan moved to Tulsa, OK to take a position as a plastics engineer and in 2011 began shooting 3-Gun competitively. Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! Why? I do know its about mid charge range tho. The google sheet has been updated for those interested in the difference or who want to reference the sheet. You are using an out of date browser which is likely incompatible with our website. I thought one was supposed to be at least 10 feet away from the chronograph when measuring velocity. JavaScript is disabled. Soon, Zach was shooting skeet and fell in love with the sport. Maybe Ill do another test with the chrono 10ft away and see if I get any difference in results, thanks. 4 hours ago, looking4reloadingdeals said: 6 hours ago, looking4reloadingdeals said: I use the Caldwell chrono and it statesthat the unit must be 10-15 ft from the muzzle for the reading. Cowboy Action, Bullseye and Combat Shooters should love this one! Former lead pilot of the Blue Angels John Foley has reached been in contact along with Remington Mcbee and several others. Generally speaking, ~3.3 grains of Titegroup using a 147 grain bullet is about as vanilla of a competition load as it gets. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Every match Ive been to that chronoshas the chrono set up at least 10 ft away. Notes: Chronograph figures are for five rounds taken with the start screen at approximately 6 feet. We recommend upgrading your current browser or. Maximum loads from Sierra: 115 gn bullets: Titegroup - 3.6 gn - 1100 fps. December 31, 2019 in 9mm/38 Caliber. The Lyman 44th Edition has data for Bullseye, Red Dot, Unique and Herco for 158 grain cast lead bullets . Max charge was 4.8 grains, so these should be fine. ABOUT WYATT: Wyatt is 14 years old and has also hunted Africa, Hawaii and other states as well. Then work up from there. I have shot benchrest, F-Class, PRS, ELR, NRL hunter, and field matches. Available in 1 lb., 4 lb. Titegroup I use 4 gr @ 1.130". When we say same bullet, same case, same primer, what we mean is each case/bullet/primer is weighed . I am using TiteGroup for 9mm, but I`m loading 124 gr. 100% of all my handloads are done withHodgdonbrands. I'll just try out 10-20 rds at min load and see how they go. Special Order 9MM (.356) 38/.357 (.358) 125 Gr Round Nose; 147 Gr Round Nose; 158 Gr Semi Wad Cutter; . Reply Quote. HP and RN load data are practically interchangeable since you should be working up from the minimum anyways. SUBSCRIBE TO OUR NEWSLETTER TO STAY UP ON THE LATEST. Nuts accurate. My question is how much would you load into a 158gr bullet. Phillip is a 10-year Marine Corps veteran having served his whole career in the Scout Sniper community. Ryan earned a Bachelors of Science in Chemistry and Plastics Engineering as well as a Masters of Science in Engineering Technologies. 2019 Alabama Precision Long Range Challenge 5th, 2021 Alabama Precision Long Range Classic 3rd. When I used titegroup my load with 147s was 3.0gr and with 124s it was 3.8gr, power factor was always around 130. 9mm/38 Caliber 9mm Load Data With Titegroup Powder 9mm Load Data With Titegroup Powder By looking4reloadingdeals December 31, 2019 in 9mm/38 Caliber Share Followers 0 Reply to this topic Start new topic 513 Posted December 31, 2019 (edited) Hello everyone, I have been putting together some load data for some of the loads I use commonly. One is hard pressed to find a nicer person. Zach has several friends that are getting into reloading shotshells because of Zachs reloads. I sold off all except Titegroup. I use titegroup for 9mm using the Lee charge disk on my turret press. I am about to load my first rounds and need some data. Titegroup has it all - low charge weight, burns clean, mild muzzle report and superb, uniform ballistics. Today, it is a popular military and law enforcement handgun cartridge. Working and enjoying the outdoors were just a normal part of day to day life. Still using same load years later and it's a good round. Walkalong, that was my guess also, but there are other fast powders listed with 900fps and 950fps loads. Hope this helps some others develop some loads. The 9mm Makarov and 9mm Luger velocities of 1,000 fps and 1,100 fps respectively were quite respectable, especially in the short-barreled SIG SAUER P365. I am doing 3.7gr of Titegroup 124gr bullet. I found anything much lower to be too weak. Its popularity soared after World War II, and the U.S. military adopted the 9x19mm as its service pistol round in 1985. Both are off according to the newer data I am not afraid to pull them apart and use data that I can easily find and a powder that has more bullets listed for it. This is an older thread, you may not receive a response, and could be reviving an old . An avid outdoorsman, he enjoys hunting and fishing with his family and mentoring youth through his ministry service. 9 mm Luger - Published Manufacturer Loading Data. It's the cheapest and most available powder for 9mm in my area. Jaclyn has also taken up Extreme Long Range matches, including King of Two Miles in New Mexico, where she placed 14th out of 80 invited competitors. Residing in Cheney Washington, Jake Vibbert owns JC Steel targets Inc. and is a strong competitor in the Precision Rifle Series and the National Rifle League. Me thinks not, but I could be wrong. Except that is going to be huge high pressure and very dangerous. It's the cheapest and most available powder for 9mm in my area. Load two according to the new data for the 124gr XTP has an OAL 1.140 with a power range of 3.6 to 4.1 grains that would make this unsafe. Appreciate the input. Unique - 4.6 gn - 1100 fps. If you work from the max COL until they feed from the magazine and chamber correctly, you should find your ideal COL. My standard load is 124gr. 9mm has a rather consistent 115gr OAL. My brother gave me some Titegroup. LRN Manufacturer Hodgdon Powder Titegroup Bullet Diameter .356" C.O.L. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. JavaScript is disabled. By 2011, she sold her farm and all of her horses to focus on 3-Gun and the 2nd Amendment. I usually use the data for lead bullets when i load plated ones. 2.8 gr. Load at your own risk. We do not take backorders and our Tech Services team cannot take orders via email or phone. Brian Neace grew up in Southern Idaho in the Snake River Plain, surrounded by miles and miles of high desert to the north and bordered on the south by public wilderness. All I had was word of mouth and books. This made me wonder if it is a velocity issue, or a powder charge below 3.7gr issue since all these loads are for the same bullets. You can post now and register later. Snake River PRS club has become his pride and joy with a dedication to growing the sport by recruiting and supporting new and youth shooters. Still using 4.0 Grains of Titegroup with 124 Gr Jacketed and 3.6 Gr. I have an old Lee maual, but it doesn't have any info on Titegroup. Available in 1 lb., 4 lb. Later, he started a granite countertop business allows him the time to pursue his passion for long-range shooting and high-country public land mule deer and elk hunting. That is all the negatives about it, it shoots just fine, its very economical and its just fine with accuracy. A lead bullet is a lead bullet as long as were talking a medium hardness. Titegroup: 0.356" 1.100" 3 . and 8 lb. I used 4.5 grains of Titegroup with a 115 grain Berry's FMJ bullet and an OAL of 1.125 to 1.130. Be sure to enter theNES/MFS March Giveaway ***Taurus G3c***. I use a Lee turret with the AutoDisk, and I'm finding that one cavity is at or lower than the recommended min charge, and the next cavity up is at or higher than the recommended max charge. I was intrigued with 3-Gun since, as a police officer, I relied on all three platforms at work. Works good in everything from my 1911 to Glock YMMV. I plan on using Titegroup since I have it for my 45ACP. 1.100 in. Hell they even have chrono`s that mount right on the barrels of rifles these days. After looking at my previous set ups, the chrono was likely at about 7 feet, not 5. He has also put together the first online Precision Rifle Training series of its kind, gaining viewers from all over the world on the JC Steel Targets website. She helps organize and coordinate Arizonas own national level event, the Tactical Precision Rifle Challenge. Titegroup works very well for the load I am using on a wildcat. You cannot paste images directly. looking4reloadingdeals In fact, Jake has compiled more wins than any other Shooter in the United States at national level Precision Rifle Series and National Rifle League events during that span. Sowhat about Titegroup and what do some cases look like? Most manuals stop at 147 grains, though Hodgdon and Vihtavuori have data for 150 grain bullets. You will get better accuracy and much better function with a mid-burn rate powder such as Unique, Universal, AA#5, or Power Pistol. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. behind a 115gr. I have been trying to get a 9mm 124gr RN load to reach 1200fps. Panel recommends more gun restrictions to lower military suicides, 12ga progressive reloader Ponsness Warren, (250) Hornady XTP 45 Cal 300gr Projectiles, Vintage Bushnell ScopeChief 22LR 4x scope. Titegroup's unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. In Pistols and Revolvers.. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. Titegroup's unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. The gun to be used is a Sig M11-A1 9mm, 4" barrel, standard recoil spring. The current Lyman manual (49th Edition) does not have load data for anything heavier than 147 grains, but older manuals do. The more inexpensive "competition" powder. 6 grains? Doubling that will come close to including practice rounds spent at his one-of-a-kind shooting range he built on the edge of the Snake River Canyon. A lot of this powder fits in a case, over 10 grains, easily. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Titegroup's unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. Lee, Lyman, Hodgdon, Hornady, all sorts of manuals have data. THR Group Project - PISTOL - Advanced Reloading Concepts and Discussions. Thanks guys. 9mm Luger / 9mm Parabellum Ball-Type Handloads. Her assignments included Patrol, Street Crimes, Narcotics, and Gangs. Same load just use the coal from another powders load. FYI, when you think about it..even the amount of crimp can/will/could affect things. Display as a link instead, No part of the landscape, from pop cans to squirrels, was immune to a 10 round burst from a Ruger. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. My guess is 900 FPS jacketed load is getting close to not being able to guarantee the bullet always leaving the barrel, where a 1000 FPS load is more certain. Cowboy Action, Bullseye and Combat Shooters should love this one! A forum community dedicated to Carolina firearm owners and enthusiasts. It's for practice, not for competition. Brian now competes in both the PRS and NRL Pro series. Titegroup 3.4grs 968 FPS G34 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 668 Scottsdale, AZ Posted January 28, 2018 Notes 2: 3.5grs Tite Group Distance to Chrono (FT): 5.00 Ballistic Coefficient: 0.212 Bullet Weight (gr): 147.00 Temp: N/A F BP: N/A inHg Altitude: 0.00 # FPS FT-LBS PF 10 957 298.99 140.68 9 947 292.77 139.21 8 959 300.24 140.97 After this I would consider most all of the load data above close enough to start load development with. We will pass. As a rule though, i try to keep it at the distance specified by the chrono brands i`m using. My conclusion is that a 115 gr. Cowboy Action, Bullseye and Combat Shooters should love this one! Dianna currently competes in the role of Captain for Team Benelli. From their home in Montana, Shoot Straight with Chad & Marsha follows Chad, Marsha and their two boys-Walker and Wyatt-across the world in hunting adventures. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. First reloading experience was disappointing until I learned the process and started making very consistent ammo. Thank you for sharing Hodgdon Reloading data. Recently, well, a few months back, I loaded a thousand of the X-Treme 124gr PRN for my neighbor. I think someone posted that very information just yesterday. In 1999, George opened GA Precision after apprenticing with three gunsmiths. Those who would emasculate Americans by denying them the right to bear arms are guilty of aiding and abetting evil when it strikes. Titegroups unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. I havent had a problem yet. He also placed second in the World Elk Calling competition. Titegroup has it all low charge weight, burns clean, mild muzzle report and superb, uniform ballistics. Through shooting, Zach has met many people in the shooting community. Titegroup is what people generally buy when they are trying to make budget loads, and the general best Titegroup loads are between 3-4 grains of powder only, so you can load a lot of rounds with just 1 pound. Although her family hobby was horse shows and barrel racing, her father introduced her to USPSA in high school. Looks like i will test some 4.0 and 4.2 as long as they stay below 1200. Shes also the co-director of her local club, the AZ LRPRS, assisting in facilitating monthly matches throughout the year. Hodgdon Titegroup: Quest for the Perfect 9mm Hand Load Part 10 Walker loves waterfowl hunting with his black lab Pow. The game hooked me, but I fell in love with the people! Since returning to competition on 2009, Dianna has earned a plethora of High Lady wins, including the 2013 and 2016 USPSA Ladies Open National Championship. All calculations were done by hand using formulas, please let me know if anything seems off. His proven expertise in firearm manipulation and shooting techniques has enhanced the skills of countless individuals and agencies. A couple months later, Zach shot USAYESS competition in Grand Island. I dont think i would worry about it. Quickly he was attending weekly, monthly, and annual shoots, which included Nebraska state, USAYESS, and many more. Retired LEO/Rangemaster, Glock armorer, pistol instructor, Endowment NRA member. Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, troubleshooting, accessories, classifieds, and more! As of 2014, Ryan and Dianna have become full time hunters and competitors, focusing most predominately on 3-Gun. I'll be firing it through either the Glock 19 or 43. If you don't mind my asking, where did your recipe come from? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk. Obligatory start low and work your way upSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk, Went out and tested 4 more loads today (2 of the same load) and got extremely similar results. Keyboards and steering wheels bring out the absolute worst in people. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. I didn't think 4.5 grains was a max load either, because on the Titegroup container it says that for 115gr Speer GDHP max load is 4.8 gr. Posted by David Blankenship on Aug 12th 2022. In my time I have worked on improving myself to take it as high as I can. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. I dont plan on stopping anytime soon and this year is scheduled to be as busy as any while shooting 4 different series. I have the Hornady manual, but nothing about Titegroup in the manual for 9mm. May 7, 2012 9mm 124 gr FMJ 1.15" COL 4.3 gr Titegroup (a little hot) Like many reloaders I ended up with 6 or 7 different powders for my pistols until I shot 5 rounds from each similar FPS loads from a bench. Just dirty as we ever seen and HOT. At first I was a little leery when I could not find the exact bullet I wanted to use with the powder I was using. I was ordering my daughter an archery set and decided to order a Lee classic loader in 9mm. Neither The High Road nor any of its directors, members, managers, employees, agents, vendors, or suppliers will be liable for any direct, indirect, general, bodily injury, compensatory, special, punitive, consequential, or incidental damages including, without limitation, lost profits or revenues, costs of replacement goods, loss or damage to data arising out of the use or inability to use this forum or any services associated with this forum, or damages from the use of or reliance on the information present on this forum, even if you have been advised of the possibility of such damages. Don't ask me why the maximum charge for Titegroup is higher with the 125 gn bullets. If I don't like it, I will give it to my buddy After working up a lighter load for my daughter I ended up with 124 grain plated bullet and 4.4 grains of Titegroup. Hollow points may be shorter so COAL may vary some. JavaScript is disabled. Zach, a resident of McCook, Nebraska, started shooting trap and hunting when he was 10. For over 25 years, he has worked in the firearms industry in product development, working and consulting with small arms manufacturing and related products. Because it's a fast powder well suited to moderate-to-light recoil/PF loads, and because it is. Pasted as rich text. I would like a lighter load for practicenothing too hot. When Wyatts not hunting or fishing he loves competing in rodeos and roping off of his horse, General. Buy Sport Pistol or N320 instead. As a beginner reloader, I'm looking for Titegroup load data for 9mm for 115 grains FMJ. Loading 9mm RN with Titegroup data horsegoalie Apr 24, 2013 H horsegoalie Rating - 100% 6 0 0 Joined Sep 18, 2012 Messages 284 Likes 27 Apr 24, 2013 #1/11 I am starting a load with some Berry's 115gr RN plated bullets and Titegroup. Shoots well, functions well and it is light enough. After starting a life and career in Tulsa, she pursued barrel racing until she found 3-Gun in 2009. For 9mm, with Sierra 115 fmj, 4.8gr of Titegroup. Varget and H-4350 are the go to but since Ive been running some IMR Enduron powders that seem to work very good as well. In 2016, she plans to lead a delegate of women to Capitol Hill in an effort to give legislators a face to put with gun owners. As with any load data posted on the internet, please start testing low and work your way up. No issues there. I have been using 3.3gr Titegroup under 147fmj at 1.15 coal. In that time I have used it for both hunting and competition. She remains the only female to take home overall wins in national level precision rifle competitions when she won the 2016 NorCal Tactical Bolt Rifle Challenge and 2018 K&M Kahles Precision Rifle Competition. I have been putting together some load data for some of the loads I use commonly. Hodgton indicates you can go to 4.1. This powder is very popular. Probably saved me some money. Available in 1 lb., 4 lb. In 2015, Ryan and Dianna traveled to over 36 events across the world, including Italy and New Zealand.

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